msnbc.com interview (2008)
On August 20th 2008 msnbc.com published an interview with the band, done by Nekesa Mumbi Moody. The original interview can be found here.
Keywords: Evil Urges, Commercial success
NEW YORK — The change in My Morning Jacket from their last studio album, the breakthrough "Z," to their latest, "Evil Urges," is not drastic: It's not as if they brought in Timbaland to overhaul their sound or abandoned their scruffy look for more fashionable duds.
Still, much of the buzz surrounding the soulful rock collective's "Evil Urges" has centered on its polished sound and pop potential. The grooves aren't as meandering, the jamming doesn't sound as if it's being pumped out from some neighborhood dive, as it sometimes had. Even frontman and main songwriter Jim James talks about how it sounds "less organic."
"I feel like this is our tightest record in a rhythmic sense," he says. "I feel really happy and proud about it."
All of which has led to speculation that this is the fivesome's attempt to finally make a dent into rock's mainstream: Though the Louisville, Ky.-based group has been beloved by critics and has a feverish fan base that has made them a successful touring band, their biggest-selling CD was 2005's acclaimed "Z" — 216,000, respectable numbers for an indie band but nowhere near close to mainstream.
With the release of "Evil Urges," they've already gotten more exposure. The band recently appeared on "Saturday Night Live," booked its first gig at Radio City Music Hall and plans to close out the year with a New Year's Eve performance at Madison Square Garden. The CD, released this month, sold about 50,000 copies for a top 10 debut on Billboard's Top 200 album chart.
But while their songs may be a bit more refined, and could be more palatable to radio stations, the group — which includes James, guitarist Carl Broemel, bassist Tom Blankenship, drummer Patrick Hallahan and keyboardist Bo Koster — doesn't foresee itself becoming a top 40 band anytime soon, nor is it striving to be.
"It depends on what you think of as the next level, too, because I think we did go to the next level over the last two or three years. It's an incremental thing, which is important to us versus going from however many records to millions and millions of records," says Broemel.
"I think that's what people are thinking, like, ‘They're going to break off and be a household name,' but I don't know. People always see us and they're like, `What band are you guys?' and we're like, My Morning Jacket, and they're like, 'Who?'" he recounts, as the rest of the band laughs. "That happens all the time, and I don't think we care."
Producer Joe Chiccarelli, who has worked with superstar acts like U2 and Elton John as well as Beck, Rufus Wainright and Tori Amos, says "Evil Urges" is the most "instantly accessible ... groove-oriented batch of songs that the band has done."
The songs, mostly written by James, still have that potent mixture of funk and rock, they bring in more musical elements, and, as Chiccarelli explains, less of a jam-band feel that had defined the band in its early days.
"When I heard the demos and I was just instantly taken by the fact that (James) was trying to say things in a more concise manner, that songs weren't as long or as rambling, they were more focused and to the point," he says.
James, 30, says the band not only wanted to try a different sound, but a more seamless sound as well: He describes the band's drumming as so tight that "sometimes you're maybe confused if it's a real person playing."
"I feel like ‘Z' was a bridge kind of between more of the older sound and to more of a newer sound ... they still have all of elements but it's progression," James says as he and the band sit in a friend's apartment in Manhattan to discuss the record a couple of months before its release.
For the CD "Z," the band worked with producer John Leckie, whose credits include Radiohead, and recorded the CD in picturesque upstate New York. The result: an album that was a critical triumph and a commercial breakthrough.
But to change things up this time around, My Morning Jacket not only went with another producer but decided to record the CD in Manhattan — in an uncomfortable, cramped studio, as the band describes it, which kept them focused on the job at hand.
"It was really a hard record. Parts of it were fun, but it wasn't a fun record: We weren't sitting around laughing," James says, as they all laugh as if on a private joke. "It was like we went in everyday for 12-hour shifts ... it was much different from any other record in that all the other records were spaced out."
"It wasn't pretty all the time (but) it was beautiful in hindsight," says Hallahan.
It was quite different from how they wrote the music for the record — in scenic Colorado, where the group communed for a month not only to get inspired about music, but to get closer together as a unit.
"I think it was special because we go on tour together and that's just a constant moving thing, whereas in Colorado we stayed in one place and just marinated in that place, literally," says Broemer. "We cooked a lot, we played a lot of basketball ... and we made music together. More importantly, because we were so secluded, I think the isolation forced us to realize why we're still in this band together, why we're on this quest."
And that quest, in Chiccarelli's eyes, doesn't include plans to become a commercial band with radio-ready hits.
"(The goal is) not to make the songs disposable or slight or pop songs," Chiccarelli says. "I don't think the band is capable of making that. I just don't think it's in them, and I think if that's what they wanted to do they could do that because they are kind of fans of a lot of different music."
Besides, as the band sees it, their career has been gaining momentum with each album — slow and steady, always on the rise. And they're hoping that trajectory continues.
"We've been pretty lucky to continually go up," James says. "I feel like there's peaks and valleys in everyone's career and the goal is to keep being honest and make hit records and let the chips fall where they may."
